Identification With Christ

Near, so near am I to God,
Nearer I cannot be;
For in the Person of His Son,
I’m just as near as He.
Dear, so dear am I to God,
Dearer I cannot be;
The love wherewith He loved His Son,
Such is His love for me.

When God buildeth, He casteth all downe first. He is no  patcher.
Obedience of a Christian Man (1528) — William Tyndale.


One of the great Pauline truths is the believer’s identification with Christ.1 This Christian doctrine is all Paul. Stated another way, these truths are taught by no other Biblical writer. These Pauline truths reveal the believer’s position and blessing in Christ and teach one how to live the Christian life.

Paul’s teaching on living the Christian life was revolutionary. Paul taught when one believes his gospel (Romans 2.16, 16.25; 1 Corinthians 15.1-4) God identifies him with Christ in His death and resurrection.

The believer today, as a member of the Church, the body of Christ, lives in a fundamentally different environment than Israel lived under the Law of Moses. Paul taught that believers of his gospel live under the administration of Grace, not Law. Tragically, when grace is taught in most churches it is usually shackled with qualifications. Many teach that while the believer is not under the ceremonial or civil Mosaic Law the believer is under the moral part of the Mosaic Law. The problem with such teaching is it is not Biblical. The Mosaic Law, given to Israel, was a complete system. One was obligated to keep the whole Law. Paul understood this. He was a Pharisee. He never divided the Law into parts. When he wrote about the Law, he wrote about it as a unity. He did not parse it as civil, ceremonial, and moral. When he taught the believer is not under Law but under grace (Romans 6.14) he meant it. Believers are not under the Mosaic Law period.2

If this is so, a question arises: “If the believer in Christ is not under the Mosaic Law, does this mean a believer is free to sin?” Paul’s response was: μὴ γένοιτο–No!!!3 How can a believer live a holy life if he is not under Law? That is what this article is about.

Identification with Christ

Identification Truths Apprehended by FAITH
Identification TruthsScripture
Baptized into Christ and His death
ὅσοι ἐβαπτίσθημεν εἰς Χριστὸν Ἰησοῦν εἰς τὸν θάνατον αὐτοῦ ἐβαπτίσθημε
Romans 6.3; 1 Corinthians 12.13; Colossians 2.12; 3.3; Titus 3.5-7
Buried with Christ through baptism
συνετάφημεν οὖν αὐτῷ διὰ τοῦ βαπτίσματος
εἰς τὸν θάνατον
Romans 6.4
Crucified with Christ
ἡμῶν ἄνθρωπος συνεσταυρώθη
Romans 6.6; Galatians 2.20
United with Christ in the likeness of His death and resurrection
σύμφυτοι γεγόναμεν τῷ ὁμοιώματι τοῦ θανάτου αὐτοῦ
Romans 6.5, 8; Colossians 2.12; Philippians 3.10
No longer a slave to sin
τοῦ μηκέτι δουλεύειν ἡμᾶς τῇ ἁμαρτίᾳ
Romans 6.6-7, 18, 22
Possessor of eternal life
τὸ δὲ τέλος ζωὴν αἰώνιον
Romans 6.22-23
Dead to the Law
ἐθανατώθητε τῷ νόμῳ
Romans 7.4
Released from the Law
νυνὶ δὲ κατηργήθημεν ἀπὸ τοῦ νόμου
Romans 7.6
Not under Law but under Grace
οὐ γάρ ἐστε ὑπὸ νόμον ἀλλὰ ὑπὸχάριν
Romans 6.14; 7.4, 6; Galatians 5.18; Colossians 2.20
No condemnation, No separation
Οὐδὲν ἄρα νῦν κατάκριμα, τίς ἡμᾶς χωρίσει ἀπὸ τῆς ἀγάπης τοῦ Χριστοῦ
Romans 8.1, 37-39
Received Spirit of adoption
ἀλλὰ ἐλάβετε πνεῦμα υἱοθεσίας
Romans 8.15
Complete in Christ
ἐστὲ ἐν αὐτῷ πεπληρωμένοι
Colossians 2.10
Seated with Christ in heaven
συνεκάθισεν ἐν τοῖς ἐπουρανίοι ἐν Χριστῷ Ἰησοῦ
Ephesians 2.6; Philippians 3.20
Joint-heirs with Christ
συγκληρονόμοι δὲ Χριστοῦ
Romans 8.17

The truths Paul taught in the three chapters of Romans 6-8 are the bedrock of Christian living. If a believer in Christ is to live a life pleasing to God, understanding these passages is essential. Paul explained how the believer is to live his life before God and man after he has believed the gospel (Acts 20.24; 1 Corinthians 15.1-4) apart from the Law. Paul revealed anthropological information about our condition as members of the human race one finds nowhere else. With this information, we are able to understand better the psychological issues inherent in our nature and God’s provisions to help us live lives pleasing to Him.

Romans 6

Paul’s doctrine of identification is that the believer is identified with Christ in His death and resurrection. The practical implications of this truth are tremendous. Anyone who believes the gospel (1 Corinthians 15.1-4) becomes alive spiritually. This is what Christians call salvation. It is a divine activity of pure grace. We cannot work, earn, or merit God’s forgiveness or eternal life. Salvation is God’s gift to the one who trusts Him (Ephesians 2.8-9). As the believer has received new life by faith, he is to live that new life by faith. The normal Christian life is a life of faith.

The Text

What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin so that grace may increase? May it never be! How shall we who died to sin still live in it? Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death? Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life. For if we have become united with Him in the likeness of His death, certainly we shall also be in the likeness of His resurrection, knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him, in order that our body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin; for he who has died is freed from sin (Romans 6.1-7).

Paul anticipated criticism. What he revealed had never been revealed before. Paul’s teachings about the Law were startling for a Jew. For a Pharisaic Jew, they were revolutionary. If a believer is not under Law but under grace (Romans 6.14) some will argue this means the believer is free to sin. Paul’s response was μὴ γένοιτο (Romans 6.1-2, 15), his strongest negative expression. Tragically, those with a legalistic frame of mind have no understanding of grace or its healthful effects. But when one appropriates by faith his position in Christ under grace he has a wholly different mind and set of attitudes.

Paul declared the believer has died to sin (verse 2). What did he mean? When Christ died on the cross, God identified the believer as having died with Him. Paul expressed this thought with the phrase, “baptized into His death” (verse 3). This baptism contains no water. It is dust dry. God views the believer as “buried with Him” (verse 4) in His death. God also sees the believer as risen with Christ. As a result of Christ’s rising from the dead, we can experience a new life (verse 4). Paul taught that since we were united or identified with Christ in His death we also have a new, resurrected life in Christ. This new life will be completed with physical resurrection when Christ returns for His Church, the body of Christ. Paul alone taught this doctrine of Christ’s return for His Church–the event known as the Rapture.4 The Rapture is part of the great Christian doctrine of the resurrection. Members of the body of Christ will receive resurrection bodies at the Rapture. This new body will be incapable of sin.

At the present time, no one can live a sinless life. The reason is we live in bodies corrupted by Adam’s sin. Paul wrote our present body, our “old man” (ὁ παλαιὸς ἡμῶν ἄνθρωπος) has been crucified with Christ in order that our “body of sin” (τὸ σῶμα τῆς ἁμαρτίας) might be “done away with” or “deactivated” (ἵνα καταργηθῇ). The believer is being prepared (saved but still in a body poisoned by Adam’s sin) for eternity. For this reason, we are no longer to be “slaves to sin.” Paul ended this section with a thought he will examine further: the dead don’t sin. Thus, “he who has died is free from sin.”

Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him, knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, is never to die again; death no longer is master over Him. 10 For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God. 11 Even so consider yourselves to be dead to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus (Romans 6.8-11).

Since Christ died for all believers,5 what is the proper response to this reality? The proper response is faith. We are to “reckon” or “consider” (λογίζεσθε) ourselves dead to sin and alive to God. The word λογίζομαι6 is the first command in the passage. Our identification with Christ’s death on the cross is not an existential experience. It is a reality apprehended by faith: we believe God. We believe what God has said. The word is a present, middle, imperative. The action is continuous (present tense) and in the middle voice–the believer does it on his own behalf, and it is a command (imperative mood). As one has believed the gospel (1 Corinthians 15.1-4) for justification, we are commanded to “reckon” or “consider” ourselves dead to sin and alive to God for sanctification. Both justification and sanctification operate through faith: the just live by faith (Habakkuk 2:4; Romans 1:17; Galatians 3:11; Hebrews 10:38).

12 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its lusts, 13 and do not go on presenting the members of your body to sin as instruments of unrighteousness; but present yourselves to God as those alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness to God. 14 For sin shall not be master over you, for you are not under law but under grace (Romans 6.12-14).

The faith command of “reckoning” governs and is followed by three additional commands in verses 12-13. Verse 14 forms the summary and conclusion to faith, which means our lives are to operate through Grace, not Law. The passage may be outlined in the following manner:

Primary Command Based on FaithConsider yourselves to be dead to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus.
λογίζεσθε ἑαυτοὺς νεκροὺς μὲντῇ ἁμαρτίᾳ ζῶντας δὲ τῷ θεῷ ἐν Χριστῷ Ἰησοῦ.
Subordinate Command (Negative)Do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its lusts
Μὴ οὖν βασιλευέτω ἡ ἁμαρτία ἐν τῷ θνητῷ ὑμῶν σώματι εἰς τὸ ὑπακούειν ταῖς ἐπιθυμίαις αὐτοῦ
Subordinate Command (Negative)Do not go on presenting the members of your body to sin as instruments of unrighteousness
μηδὲ παριστάνετε τὰ μέλη ὑμῶν ὅπλα ἀδικίας τῇ ἁμαρτίᾳ
Subordinate Command (Positive)Present yourselves to God as those alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness to God
παραστήσατε ἑαυτοὺς τῷ θεῷ ὡσεὶ ἐκ νεκρῶνῶντας καὶ τὰ μέληὑμῶν ὅπλα δικαιοσύνης τῷ θεῷ
Declarative SummationSin shall not be master over you, for you are not under law but under grace.
ἁμαρτία γὰρ ὑμῶν οὐ κυριεύσει, οὐ γάρ ἐστε ὑπὸ νόμον ἀλλὰ ὑπὸ χάριν

In verse 15, Paul repeated the question he posed in verse 1 and gave the same answer.

15 What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? May it never be! 16 Do you not know that when you present yourselves to someone as slaves for obedience, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin resulting in death, or of obedience resulting in righteousness? 17 But thanks be to God that though you were slaves of sin, you became obedient from the heart to that form of teaching to which you were committed, 18 and having been freed from sin, you became slaves of righteousness. 19 I am speaking in human terms because of the weakness of your flesh. For just as you presented your members as slaves to impurity and to lawlessness, resulting in further lawlessness, so now present your members as slaves to righteousness, resulting in sanctification (Romans 6.15-19).

Paul anticipated an objection from legalists: a believer will sin if he is not controlled by Law. Paul answered this objection with his second μὴ γένοιτο. He revealed a new truth: the believer died to sin through the death of Christ. Before this, he was enslaved to sin. But as a result of Christ’s work on the cross and His resurrection, in which He conquered sin and death, God views those in Christ as participating in this victory. The believer has been freed from his enslavement to sin to become a servant of righteousness. Paul’s exhortation was, “just as you presented your members (body) as slaves to impurity and to lawlessness . . . so now present your members as slaves to righteousness, resulting in sanctification.”

20 For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness. 21 Therefore what benefit were you then deriving from the things of which you are now ashamed? For the outcome of those things is death. 22 But now having been freed from sin and enslaved to God, you derive your benefit, resulting in sanctification, and the outcome, eternal life. 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord (Romans 6.20-23).

Paul concluded this portion of his argument with a declaration that before believing the gospel we were without righteousness and slaves to sin. Paul asked what benefit resulted from sin (of which the believer is now ashamed) since it leads to death. Christ’s death freed the believer from sin’s slavery which results in sanctification and eternal life. Sin’s payment was death. God’s gift is eternal life. What a contrast!

Romans 7 or “We Are Not Sinners Because We Break the Law; We Break the Law Because We Are Sinners.”


Romans 7 is a source of controversy. Some maintain Paul described his life before he became a believer. Others maintain Paul was describing his life as a Christian. If one follows the entire argument Paul made in chapters 6-8, it should be clear he was writing of his life as a believer.

Romans 7.1-4, 6, 12-25Romans 7.5, 7-11

Previously, Paul revealed Christ has freed the believer from sin. The believer is not home free, however. Our old or Adamic nature, which came into being as a result of Adam’s fall, continues to exist as long as one lives in his present body. But, as we saw above, Paul revealed the way to victory was through faith–by reckoning ourselves as dead to sin and alive to God.

The Text:

Or do you not know, brethren (for I am speaking to those who know the law), that the law has jurisdiction over a person as long as he lives? For the married woman is bound by law to her husband while he is living; but if her husband dies, she is released from the law concerning the husband. So then, if while her husband is living she is joined to another man, she shall be called an adulteress; but if her husband dies, she is free from the law, so that she is not an adulteress though she is joined to another man (Romans 7.1-3).

In this part of Paul’s argument, he reminded readers that law has jurisdiction over the living, not the dead. To illustrate, he gave an example of a married woman. As long as her husband lived, she was bound to him. Once he died, however, she was free.

Therefore, my brethren, you also were made to die to the Law through the body of Christ, so that you might be joined to another, to Him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God. For while we were in the flesh, the sinful passions, which were aroused by the Law, were at work in the members of our body to bear fruit for death. But now we have been released from the Law, having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter (Romans 7.4-6).

As a married woman is freed once her husband has died, the believer is freed from the Law through Christ’s death and his identification with Christ in that death. Paul then revealed another truth: far from constraining sin, the Mosaic Law actually excited or energized (ἐνηργεῖτο, imperfect, middle, indicative) it. Literally, verse 5 reads,

For when we were in the flesh, the passions of sins worked through the Law in our members to bear fruit unto death.
ὅτε γὰρ ἦμεν ἐν τῇ σαρκί, τὰ παθήματα τῶν ἁμαρτιῶντὰ διὰ τοῦ νόμου
ἐνηργεῖτο ἐν τοῖς μέλεσιν ἡμῶν εἰς τὸ καρποφορῆσαι τῷ θανάτῳτὰ
The phrase, παθήματα τῶν ἁμαρτιῶν is a genitive of quality or an objective genitive, i.e., sinful passions or passions which lead to sinful acts. These passions worked (were energized) through the Law in our members (μέλεσιν), a synecdoche for the whole body, “to bear fruit (καρποφορῆσαι, cf. verse 4) unto death.” Thus, the result was that when natural passions came in contact with the Law it produced death. Paul used the word καρποφορῆσαι to illustrate this result was as natural as an apple tree producing apples. The imperfect tense (which always occurs in the indicative mood) indicates the reality of continuous past action.

Paul wrote sin (the sin nature) is aroused when it comes into contact with the commandment. The middle voice indicates that the subject “passions” participates in the results of the action. Thus, the effect Law had upon the Adamic nature was to produce sin. Paul then declared, “But now” (verse 6). When is “now?” When was the believer released from the Law? He was released when God saw him identified with Christ in His death and resurrection. When did this occur? It occurred when the individual believed the gospel (1 Corinthians 15.1-4). A believer has been freed from the Law at the moment of faith. Why is this significant? Paul declared, “so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter (or Law).”

What shall we say then? Is the Law sin? May it never be! On the contrary, I would not have come to know sin except through the Law; for I would not have known about coveting if the Law had not said, “YOU SHALL NOT COVET.” But sin, taking opportunity through the commandment, produced in me coveting of every kind; for apart from the Law sin is dead. I was once alive apart from the Law; but when the commandment came, sin became alive and I died; 10 and this commandment, which was to result in life, proved to result in death for me; 11 for sin, taking an opportunity through the commandment, deceived me and through it killed me. 12 So then, the Law is holy, and the commandment is holy and righteous and good (Romans 7.7-12).

Having stated all the above, Paul anticipated another objection to his argument. The objector would say, “Wait a minute. God gave the Law. Was what God gave bad?” Paul responded with his third μὴ γένοιτο. On the contrary, Paul stated. God gave the Law to reveal sin. In Paul’s own personal experience, the commandment that nailed him was, “You shall not covet.” Instead of keeping him from coveting, Paul said it exploded his desire to covet. As long as he was unaware of the commandment not to covet, his coveting remained largely dormant (“I was once alive apart from the Law”). But when he came to understand the Law, coveting awoke (“when the commandment came, sin became alive and I died”). Where lay the fault? Was the Law at fault? Not at all. On the contrary, the Law was “holy, righteous, and good” (verse 12). What the Law did, what it was designed to do, was to reveal our rebellious, Adamic nature for what it really is. The result: it “killed me” (verse 11).

13 Therefore did that which is good become a cause of death for me? May it never be! Rather it was sin, in order that it might be shown to be sin by effecting my death through that which is good, so that through the commandment sin would become utterly sinful (Romans 7.13).

To answer the question of whether the Law caused his problem, Paul remonstrated with his fourth μὴ γένοιτο. Nothing was wrong with the Mosaic Law. The problem lay not with the Law but with us. In the words of the comic character, Pogo, “we have met the enemy and he is us.” When Adam disobeyed God, he died (Genesis 2.16, 3.10, 5.5). He died spiritually immediately. Later, over 900 years later, he died physically. His spiritual death infected the whole human race (1 Corinthians 15.22) for all are “in Adam.” As a result, each person enters the world spiritually dead, condemned to die. Each of us inherits Adam’s nature which is in rebellion against God. The result is we wish to flee from God just as Adam and Eve hid themselves following their sin (Genesis 3.8). We want God to “leave us alone.” We want to be independent of God and “on our own.” The Law revealed this rebellion–“that through the commandment sin would become utterly sinful.” That was the purpose of the Law: to reveal sin–not make us righteous. The Law was extremely effective in this work. It not only revealed sin; it energized sin. But it had no power to effect righteousness. Verses attributed to John Bunyan expressed this thought:

Run, John, run! The Law commands!
But gives me neither feet nor hands.
Far grander news the Gospel brings:
It bids me fly and gives me wings!

Paul continued:

14 For we know that the Law is spiritual, but I am of flesh, sold into bondage to sin. 15 For what I am doing, I do not understand; for I am not practicing what I would like to do, but I am doing the very thing I hate. 16 But if I do the very thing I do not want to do, I agree with the Law, confessing that the Law is good. 17 So now, no longer am I the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me. 18 For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh; for the willing is present in me, but the doing of the good is not. 19 For the good that I want, I do not do, but I practice the very evil that I do not want. 20 But if I am doing the very thing I do not want, I am no longer the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me (Romans 7.14-20).

Paul wrote the Law was good. But our “flesh” (Paul’s term for our inherited Adamic nature) cannot obey it. Psychological confusion results. Paul knew what was right, i.e., what the Law required. He desired to do what was right. But he could not. His new nature, i.e., his new life in Christ, wished to do good. But his old, Adamic nature did not. Verses 17-25 indicate Paul was writing from the perspective of a believer: “no longer am I the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me,” etc. The fight was between the “I,” of the new nature and “sin,” the sinful (Adamic) nature.

21 I find then the principle that evil is present in me, the one who wants to do good. 22 For I joyfully concur with the law of God in the inner man, 23 but I see a different law in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin which is in my members. 24 Wretched man that I am! Who will set me free from the body of this death? 25 Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, on the one hand I myself with my mind am serving the law of God, but on the other, with my flesh the law of sin (Romans 7.21-25).

Paul acknowledged that even though he was a believer, his Adamic nature still existed and had power over him–“evil is present in me.” As a believer, he could “joyfully concur with the Law of God in the inner man” (the new nature). But another “law” or principle (Adam’s fallen nature) waged war against his new nature. In his psychological frustration, Paul exclaimed, “Wretched man that I am! Who will set me free from the body of this death?” The problem is our present bodies. As long as we live in mortal bodies, infected by Adam’s sin and death, we will experience this conflict. We will not be free from sin fully until we receive a new, resurrection body. This experience is what theologians call glorification.

Romans 8


In Romans, chapter 8, Paul shook off his despair. In Christ, hope abounds. Whatever frustrations and sufferings we experience in this life, they pale in comparison to future glory. The chapter begins with the great truth of “no condemnation” and ends with the great truth of “no separation.” The Holy Spirit is center stage in this chapter. He is the One who is the source of life. In Genesis 2.7, we read, “Then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.” The breath of God is life; the Holy Spirit is Life.

The Text

Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh, so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace, because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so, and those who are in the flesh cannot please God (Romans 8.1-8).

No condemnation exists for those in Christ Jesus! This great fact puts the believer’s heart at rest and his mind at peace. God has nothing against him. The believer’s position is that the “law” or principle of the Holy Spirit has freed the believer from the “law” or principle of sin and death. What the Mosaic Law could not do because of our Adamic nature, God did through His Son. The Son’s death and resurrection conquered sin and death. What was the “requirement of the Law?” (verse 4). The Law required death (the “wages of sin is death,” Romans 6.23). The Law required perfect obedience and righteousness for life. Man is unable to meet these demands. It does no good to be 99.5% good in God’s sight. One must be 100% good–all the time. We are unable to achieve this righteousness no matter how many good deeds we do. But the God-Man, the Lord Jesus Christ, was able to meet this standard. He had no sin nature. He was without sin and righteous. He fulfilled the righteous demands of the Law and paid the death penalty for sin. God sees the believer “in Christ,” not “in Adam.” As such, the believer is given the very righteousness of Christ (Romans 4.4-5).

In terms of the practical aspect of how to live as a result of Christ’s work, Paul explained that the Flesh equals Death while the Spirit equals Life. The Flesh (Adamic nature) is hostile towards God and cannot fulfill the Law. Thus, he concluded, “those who are in the flesh cannot please God.”

However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him. 10 If Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, yet the spirit is alive because of righteousness. 11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you (Romans 8.9-11).

Paul meant by being “in the flesh” two things: 1) our natural state as children of Adam and 2) living one’s life according to one’s Adamic nature. Opposed to this, Paul declared believers “are not in the flesh but in the Spirit.” Christ indwells the believer and the Holy Spirit indwells the believer (verses 10-11). This indwelling is the hope of resurrection (2 Corinthians 5.5; Ephesians 1.14).

12 So then, brethren, we are under obligation, not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh— 13 for if you are living according to the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live. 14 For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. 15 For you have not received a spirit of slavery leading to fear again, but you have received a spirit of adoption as sons by which we cry out, “Abba! Father!” 16 The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God, 17 and if children, heirs also, heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him so that we may also be glorified with Him (Romans 8.12-17).

Because of our identification with Christ, because He indwells us, because of the hope of resurrection, we are obligated (ὀφειλέτης, a debtor, a person under obligation) not to live under the control of the flesh (Adamic nature). Sin brought death (separation from God) to mankind and resulted in man’s fear of God (Genesis 3.8). Paul explained a believer has not received a spirit of slavery which leads to fear. On the contrary, we have received a new spirit: a spirit of adoption as sons. As a result, we exclaim, “Abba! Father!7 The indwelling Holy Spirit agrees with our spirit (that we are children of God, heirs (κληρονόμος) of God, and joint-heirs (συγκληρονόμος) with Christ (Romans 8.16-17). This is an awesome revelation. The believer is an heir of God and a joint-heir with Christ! A joint-heir is one who shares everything with the heir. A joint-heir or a joint-tenant on a bank account, stock, or bond has full rights to the financial asset. Such is our position in Christ. Everything He has, we have.

18 For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us. 19 For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God. 20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope 21 that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. 22 For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now. 23 And not only this, but also we ourselves, having the first fruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our body. 24 For in hope we have been saved, but hope that is seen is not hope; for who hopes for what he already sees? 25 But if we hope for what we do not see, with perseverance we wait eagerly for it. 26 In the same way the Spirit also helps our weakness; for we do not know how to pray as we should, but the Spirit Himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words; 27 and He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is, because He intercedes for the saints according to the will of God (Romans 8.18-27).

Paul wrote our present suffering cannot be compared to future glory. We must remember the one writing these words suffered more for Christ than almost anyone who has ever lived (2 Corinthians 11.16-33). The whole creation is enslaved to corruption (known in science as entropy) and has been subjected to this state not of its own will but according to God’s plan. God has given us the Holy Spirit, who is the down payment (ἀρραβών) or promise of our hope (2 Corinthians 1.22, 5.5; Ephesians 1.14), of adoption and resurrection. The Holy Spirit helps also ministers to us in our present weakness, by helping us pray.

28 And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. 29 For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; 30 and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified (Romans 8.28-30).

We know everything that happens in life is not good. But God, in His sovereignty, is able to cause all things to work to good for the believer. We lack full disclosure of God’s plan. But God has provided sufficient information to trust Him. In verses 29-30, Paul provided insight into God’s plan: He foreknew all who would trust Him. Foreknowledge governs predestination and God “predestined [believers] to become conformed to the image of His Son,” who is the firstborn, i.e., the preeminent one and first resurrected one. The believer is predestined, called, justified, and lastly glorified (resurrection and the removal of all possibility of sin).

31 What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who is against us? 32 He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him over for us all, how will He not also with Him freely give us all things? 33 Who will bring a charge against God’s elect? God is the one who justifies; 34 who is the one who condemns? Christ Jesus is He who died, yes, rather who was raised, who is at the right hand of God, who also intercedes for us. 35 Who will separate us from the love of Christ? Will tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? 36 Just as it is written, “FOR YOUR SAKE WE ARE BEING PUT TO DEATH ALL DAY LONG; WE WERE CONSIDERED AS SHEEP TO BE SLAUGHTERED.” 37 But in all these things we overwhelmingly conquer through Him who loved us. 38 For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, 39 nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, will be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord (Romans 8.31-39).

Paul concluded his great dissertation on the believer’s identification with Christ with a pawn of praise of God’s greatness and an exuberant encouragement for believers. Thus, to live a holy life requires us to be controlled by love working in concert with faith, not Law. Paul wrote:

14 For the love of Christ controls us, having concluded this, that one died for all, therefore all died; 15 and He died for all, so that they who live might no longer live for themselves, but for Him who died and rose again on their behalf (2 Corinthians 5.14-15).

We belong to a God who sacrificed everything to win us. God has justified us–who can condemn? The God who won us intercedes for us. In Him, we conquer all. Nothing can separate us from Him and His love.

Additional Passages That Provide Insight into Our Identification with Christ

Ephesians 2.4-10

But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, so that in the ages to come He might show the surpassing riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. 10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them.

This passage exalts God’s mercy and love for the believer so that God views us as being with Christ, seated in heaven. Paul made it clear salvation is not on the basis of works but on the basis of faith. Works result from faith.

Colossians 2

See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary principles of the world, rather than according to Christ. For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form, 10 and in Him you have been made complete, and He is the head over all rule and authority; 11 and in Him you were also circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, in the removal of the body of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ; 12 having been buried with Him in baptism, in which you were also raised up with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead. 13 When you were dead in your transgressions and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive together with Him, having forgiven us all our transgressions, 14 having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. 15 When He had disarmed the rulers and authorities, He made a public display of them, having triumphed over them through Him (Colossians 2.8-15).

This passage emphasizes our completeness in Christ, having been “buried with Him in baptism” and “raised up with Him” (verse 12). Believers have been made alive with Christ who has forgiven our sins (note the past tense of verse 13, cf. Ephesians 1.7). Christ’s victorious work on the cross has removed the “certificate of debt” (verse 12) which was the Law. How can believers live lives under that which Christ has removed? Paul wrote of the Law that “He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.” This is as plain as language can be.

16 Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day— 17 things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ. 18 Let no one keep defrauding you of your prize by delighting in self-abasement and the worship of the angels, taking his stand on visions he has seen, inflated without cause by his fleshly mind, 19 and not holding fast to the head, from whom the entire body, being supplied and held together by the joints and ligaments, grows with a growth which is from God (Colossians 2.16-19).

The practical result of not being under the Law includes not having anyone pass judgment on the believer regarding legal matters. Paul explained his meaning more fully in the next passage.

20 If you have died with Christ to the elementary principles of the world, why, as if you were living in the world, do you submit yourself to decrees, such as, 21 “Do not handle, do not taste, do not touch!” 22 (which all refer to things destined to perish with use)—in accordance with the commandments and teachings of men? 23 These are matters which have, to be sure, the appearance of wisdom in self-made religion and self-abasement and severe treatment of the body, but are of no value against fleshly indulgence (Colossians 2.20-23).

Paul had a never-ending fight with Jews who wished to put believers of his gospel under the Law of Moses. This was the great issue at the Jerusalem Council in 51 A.D. (Acts 15; Galatians 2). Paul understood this. Israel had been under the Law for 1,500 years. As a Pharisee, Paul knew the Law backwards and forwards. He had forgotten more Law than the Twelve had learned their entire lives. But the risen Christ had given him a new revelation: members of the body of Christ were not under the administration of Law but under new administration: Grace. Paul was constantly engaged in correcting erroneous teaching of the legalists and reminding believers they were not under the administration of the Mosaic Law. Paul knew, all too well, that the Adamic nature (Romans 7) is incapable of keeping the Law. Only by reckoning oneself dead to sin by faith under the control of the Holy Spirit can one live righteously before God.

Colossians 3

Therefore if you have been raised up with Christ, keep seeking the things above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God. Set your mind on the things above, not on the things that are on earth. For you have died and your life is hidden with Christ in God. When Christ, who is our life, is revealed, then you also will be revealed with Him in glory. Therefore consider the members of your earthly body as dead to immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and greed, which amounts to idolatry (Colossians 3.1-5).

The Church, the body of Christ, is a heavenly people. Our blessings are heavenly. Israel, on the other hand, is an earthly people. The blessings God gave Israel are earthly. Our position as believers is that we are “raised up with Christ” who is “seated at the right hand of God.” That is how God views the Church, the body of Christ. We are to “set our minds on the things above, not on the things that are on earth.” In verse 5, we have similar language to Romans 6.11. A better translation would be, “Put to death, (νεκρώσατε, aorist imperative) therefore, your earthly members to sexual immorality, uncleanness, passion, evil desire, covetousness, which is idolatry.” This is the secret to victorious life: faith.


The believer in Christ has been identified with Christ in His death. This is a positional truth. Paul encourages us to make this positional truth an existential truth by living according to the Spirit. We do this by faith. Just as we take by faith that Christ died for us and rose from the dead, we are to reckon or consider (λογίζεσθε) ourselves dead to sin and alive to God. Christ’s victorious death and resurrection (1 Corinthians 15.1-4) placed the believer under Grace. The Law could do but one thing: condemn. We are now under new management. As the great Tyndale said, “When God buildeth he casteth all downe first. He is no patcher.”8 Under grace, the believer’s motivation is to live for the One who loved him.

1 Romans 6-8 are the primary passages which speak of the believer’s identification with Christ. Other passages include Galatians 2.19-21, 5.16-24; 1 Corinthians 12.13; Ephesians 2.4-10; Colossians 2.9-14, 3.3-4; Philippians 3.7-16; Titus 3.5-7.
Paul cited the Mosaic Law in his epistles, most notably in Romans 13.8-10. Paul’s point remains. The believer is not under Law as a modus vivendus. Love fulfills the Law and is a result of apprehending God’s grace through faith.
See Romans 6.1-2, 15 for Paul’s response. Μὴ γένοιτο was Paul’s strongest wording to indicate an impossible or unthinkable idea.
See the author’s study on The Rapture and The Day of Christ.
See the author’s article on the extent of the atonement in For Whom Did Christ Die? No Biblical or logical case can be made that Christ died for only believers. The Scriptures leave no doubt He died for every single person.
The word λογίζομαι was a favorite of Paul’s. The word occurs 43x in 40 verses in the NT. Paul used the word 37 of those times. The word means to “reckon,” “count,” “compute,” “calculate” (do the math).
According to Vine: In the Gemara (a Rabbinical commentary on the Mishna, the traditional teaching of the Jews) it is stated that slaves were forbidden to address the head of the family by this title. It approximates to a personal name, in contrast to “Father,” with which it is always joined in the NT. This is probably due to the fact that, “abba” having practically become a proper name, Greek-speaking Jews added the Greek word pater, “father,” from the language they used. “Abba” is the word framed by the lips of infants, and betokens unreasoning trust; “father” expresses an intelligent apprehension of the relationship. The two together express the love and intelligent confidence of the child.
C. S. Lewis, English Literature in the Sixteenth Century, Excluding Drama, Oxford, Clarendon Press, 1954, p. 188. Tyndale had a greater understanding of these truths than any of the reformers. In the same vein, he wrote we are confronted with a redemption that God performed “to winne his enemye, to ouercomme him with loue, that he might see Loue and loue againe.” I encourage the reader to read pp. 186-189 of Lewis’ great work. Learn these pages and you will understand the great divide between law and grace. Also, read Tyndale. He was a great, great man. And he’s fun.

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55 thoughts on “Identification With Christ

  1. believe

    At the bema seat of christ will the believers get rewards as the five crowns and what about the works that are burnt up and are gold and precise stones?? and will we throw crowns at jesus feet?

    1. doctrinedoctrine Post author

      We really have no information about members of the body of Christ rewards. If I were to speculate I would say they concern future responsibilities. The crowns of Revelation 4.10-11 are the 24 elders who are most likely orders of the priesthood of Israel since that is how they were organized. Nothing in Revelation refers to the Church, the body of Christ.

  2. Rick Moffett

    “Our nature, as a result of Adam’s fall continues to exist as long as one lives in his present body.” – I totally disagree with this!! Our old man (spirit) was crucified – V6. Along with our old man (our unregenerate spirit in Adam), our old nature was also crucified. One’s nature is the essence of who he is – we are no longer in Adam, but now in Christ. We have been made partakers of the divine nature! – 2 Peter 1:4. We don’t have two natures – nowhere in the bible will you find this. Many wrongly call our flesh a sin nature. If we have a sin nature (phrase not used in scripture), then we have no choice but to sin. But, we have been set free from sin. While sin still exists, it has been rendered powerless in the new man in Christ! Amen.

    1. Roy

      I do believe the soul is what is identified with Christ, not the spirit.Its the soul that dies in sin not the spirit.the death is perhaps the most difficult to relate to as its not a death like that of the separating of body and spirit. Not sure where the idea and the teaching of “spiritual death” comes from, its certainly never mentioned in scripture..” the soul that sins it shall die” and its our soul that is effected by our sin.It effects our daily lives , our relationships, our peace of mind,and it seems our physical bodies too.Its even considered that our cell life is effected by what takes place in the body to the point that our Chromosome and prodigy have been effected by how we lived..

      1. doctrinedoctrine Post author

        We are born spiritually dead due to Adam’s sin (Romans 5.15; Ephesians 2.1, 5, 4.18; Colossians 2.13). Adam and Eve died spiritually immediately upon eating the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil (that is why they hid themselves). The human spirit is that part of our makeup that communicates with God. When one believes the gospel, one’s spirit is made alive and God gives us a new nature. See my article, Nature of Man.

  3. Jack S.

    Hello Don,

    In response to Rick’s comment above, you referred him to Romans 7; did you actually mean to refer him to Romans 6?


    1. doctrinedoctrine Post author

      Romans 7 is Paul’s account of his experience of the conflict of the flesh (old nature) and the inward man (new nature). Until we receive resurrection bodies this struggle will continue. The remedy is to “reckon” (λογίζομαι) ourselves dead to the Adamic nature but alive (ζάω) to God (Romans 6.11). This is accomplished through the control of the Holy Spirit (Romans 8).

      1. Tosan uren

        This article is very enlightening but I believe the flesh as use in the bible does no always refer to the sinful nature. I do believe that believers don’t have a sinful nature lest Christ redemptive work seems incomplete. The flesh actually refers to the old programing in our soul and body by the dictate of the sinful nature before we were born again. Once we are saved, the sinful nature is crucified with Christ but the old habits of sin programmed into our soul and body is what is referred to as sin that dwells in us in Romans 7

        1. doctrinedoctrine Post author

          The “flesh” always refers to our position in Adam (except Christ, e.g., Romans 1.3). As sons and daughters of Adam we inherit a fallen, sinful nature which is rebellion to God. The will continue until we receive new “flesh,” i.e., new bodies. That will occur at the Rapture, which is the Christian doctrine of resurrection. Positionally, the flesh was crucified but operationally it is alive (cf. Romans 7.18, 25; Galatians 5.16-17).

  4. Sue

    Hi Don,

    This is a wonderful account of our position in Christ. Thank you.
    It seems our ‘ training’ is to live out of it whilst we are waiting for our new bodies.
    Living by faith is our dispensation in the ‘ now’ and I believe His Grace is sufficient for whatever we face.

    At times the joy of the future seems to dim for some when they go through terrible times of loss and illness. Things in the ‘ now ‘ weigh too heavily and faith to receive help, seems to be beyond them. Can I be encouraged to believe that those who are His, He will bring them out of despair and bring deliverance OR can we stay in the despair, fear etc. indefinitely. This maybe a loaded question. Sorry.

    1. doctrinedoctrine Post author

      Thank you and you have it exactly right. Few have experienced more physical pain, emotional distress, and spiritual disappointment than the apostle Paul. But read what Paul wrote in Romans 8.18-39. Focus and this and be thankful. Thanksgiving is the cure for unhappiness.

  5. Ralph

    …If we say that we have not sinned (have no sin nature), we make him a liar, and his word is not in us (1 John 1:10). Experientially and experimentally we know that we still have our sin nature (not to mention that this is what the Bible teaches as well, particularly in Paul’s letters). Sanctification is by the process of our growth as we learn by faith only to trust in Christ’s complete and finished work of the cross and His shed blood. We do indeed live by grace now and not longer by the law. Free indeed!

    “The Complete Green Letters,” by Miles J. Stanford is a good read about the identification truths too. Believe it or not, Jimmy Swaggart has begun to teach this in his “Message of the Cross” series.

  6. becky

    Hi Don,
    I looked up the Greek for “yield” in Rom 6 because after reading your commentary above on that chapter, i got to wondering, what exactly does “yield” mean in this context? it is interesting how the word comes from a combination of these two words:
    Strong’s G3936 παρίστημι, παριστάνω paristēmi paristanō from:
    1. Νάρκισσος Narkissos
    A flower of the same name, from νάρκη narkē (stupefaction, as a “narcotic”); Narcissus, a Roman: – Narcissus.
    2. ἵστημι histēmi A prolonged form of a primary word στάω staō (of the same meaning, and used for it in certain tenses); to stand (transitively or intransitively), used in various applications (literally or figuratively): – abide, appoint, bring, continue, covenant, establish, hold up, lay, present, set (up), stanch, stand (by, forth, still, up).

    Can you explain how the first word is a root for “yield”?

  7. drumbo

    Thanks for this article Doc, it was right on time. I’ve been confused awhile on this particular issue. Being a recovering addict brings this whole issue right home for me. There are days when I feel I can’t lift my head and look anyone in the eye, there are dreams of my past behavior that ignite this powerful warfare within me and slam me into oblivious depression for days at a time. I want to do good for Abba, but most times my very thoughts condemn me into complete despair, threatening to overtake the very faith in HIM that is saving me. This article sent by Messiah to us through you… will be the turning point for me. I think I’ll dry my tears and go for a walk. May Abba bless you…because finally….through this one little website…..everything is starting to make sense. finally. Bless you all, be kind to one another. In love of our Messiah, who has released us.

  8. Elvie Manrique

    Hi Don, what I understood about “dead to sin” is that “believer separated from sin”. Believers still commit sin but no longer slave to sin. Romans 8:2 freed the believers from penalty of sin.

  9. Elvie Manrique

    Hi Don, Romans Chapter 5:12-21, had informed us that sin of Adam was imputed to all mankind. I think this is the sin discussed in Romans 6:6. Please I need your opinion. Thanks

    1. doctrinedoctrine Post author

      See my article, Paul and the Law. The Law was holy, righteous, and good. But due to our fallen nature it excites sin and has power over us. As long as we are in our mortal bodies we will fall victim to sin because of this. Paul recorded his personal struggle in Romans 7. Once we have resurrected bodies this will no longer be true.

      1. Elvie Manrique

        Thank you Dr. Don. Does it means the “old self” of the believer is also the symbol for former life in Adam? Some commentators believe that the ‘old self’ denotes, not our old unregenerate nature, but our old unregenerate life. Please, i need your opinion.

        1. doctrinedoctrine Post author

          No, Paul is clear that it is our fallen, Adamic nature that is in view. A good tree produces good fruit; a bad tree produces bad fruit. From a fallen nature comes evil.

          1. Elvie Manrique

            Dr. Don,
            I’ve been confused about your statement “Paul wrote that our present body, our “old man” (ὁ παλαιὸς ἡμῶν ἄνθρωπος) has been crucified with Christ in order that our “body of sin” (τὸ σῶμα τῆς ἁμαρτίας) might be “done away with” or “deactivated” (ἵνα καταργηθῇ). Do you mean our present body is our old man, the body of sin or (fallen, adamic nature)? What is the definition of nature? Are flesh, body and old man the same? Is the body of death refers to flesh or present body (Romans 7:24)? Is sin indwells in body or flesh? Thank you

            1. doctrinedoctrine Post author

              The “old man” (Romans 6.6; Ephesians 4.22), “flesh” (Romans 7.18), “body of sin” (Romans 6.6) are synonyms. When Adam ate of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil he died. His entire being was affected: body, soul, and spirit. His spirit died immediately for that is the part of man that perceives and communicates with God. His soul was corrupted into an sin nature. His body eventually died because of the effect of sin. We inherit Adam’s nature. So we come into the world spiritually dead, with a sin nature, and we will die physically. When we believe Paul’s gospel (1 Corinthians 15.1-4), God gives us His life. Our spirit is regenerated, we are given a new nature, and we await a resurrection body which cannot die. The warfare Paul wrote about in Romans 7 and Galatians 5.17 is the “old man” in war with the “new man” (Romans 7.25; Ephesians 4.24). See also 2 Corinthians 5.17.

  10. Sue

    Hi Don,

    I have heard being preached recently that when Jesus died on the cross He took away everyone’s sin nature so they are then able to choose to accept salvation.
    (They are no longer ‘ dead in their trespasses and sins’)

    In other words the ‘sin nature’ which the human race inherited in Adam has died away and was buried at the cross by Jesus.

    What are your thoughts? Is the process only activated through faith and therefore the unbeliever still has a sin nature?

    Thank you for some clarity on the matter.

    1. doctrinedoctrine Post author

      Whoever is teaching this must be perfect. The source of sin is the sin nature. If there is no sin nature, there is no sin behavior. Everyone, believers and unbelievers, has a sin nature. Paul wrote concerning believers in Romans 7 and in Galatians 5.16-18. We have a new nature but the old nature remains. It is part of our bodies. That is why Paul called it “flesh.” We will not be free of the old nature until we receive new bodies (Rapture). Paul wrote how we must deal with the old nature: “Even so consider yourselves to be dead to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus. Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its lusts, and do not go on presenting the members of your body to sin as instruments of unrighteousness; but present yourselves to God as those alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness to God” (Romans 6.11-13). His use of “sin” is “sin nature.” We are to consider ourselves “dead” to the old nature.” This is faith–living the Christian life by faith.

    1. doctrinedoctrine Post author

      It began after regeneration. Before we believed the gospel (1 Corinthians 15.1-4), we were God’s enemies (Romans 8.17, Ephesians 2.15-16).

      1. Brandon

        Agreed, your articles have really cleared up a lot of confusions and doubts. At the same time it makes me want to read more of the Scriptures to know if all of this is really true or if it is false.

        Keep up the good work mister.

        Grace and peace.

  11. Frank

    Hi Don

    When a man is in Christ he is a new creation ALL old things pass away (2 Cor. 5:17). Does this not mean that the old sinful nature, old habits, old fleshly desires are done away with?

    1. doctrinedoctrine Post author

      Paul made it clear that while God gives us a new nature, believers retain their old nature which desires to sin (Romans 7; Galatians 5.16-18).

  12. Doug

    Dear Don Samdahl,
    I thank the Lord and you for this Bible teaching. In churches today you hear the phrase: “let us apply these Biblical principles that have been taught today”. I see this as “modern legalism” because our identification with Christ in His Body is not really taught. Being a member of the Body of Christ is not simply an illustration, but true spiritual reality. We are One with God in Christ Jesus our Lord; and Christ and us work together the Good Works of the Father: “For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.” (Ephesians 2:10) “That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.” “And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:” “I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.” (John 17:21-23)

  13. Michael Murray

    Hello Don,

    Great article. Those who believe that the source of sin (old man) is eradicated cannot account for why they still sin. Where is sin coming from? It cannot come from the new man, who has been created “in righteousness and holiness of the truth”. Eph. 4. Or from the new creation life which has been “created in Christ Jesus unto good works.” Eph. 2:10. We ARE completely new and alive in Christ, however this will not be manifested until we are physically separated from these unredeemed bodies. This IS a mystery, but it calls for humble submission and obedient faith, not a demand for details and explanations. Blessings in Him,


  14. Aaron

    This article is wonderful. Thank You again. Paul not only didnt do what he wanted to do. But, even worse he did what he did not want to do. He states(Romans 7:17), “Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.” I have heard many bible teachers who to their own destruction (2 Peter 3:16) that teach Romans 8:1 skipping over “IN CHRIST JESUS” and go straight into “Walk after the Spirit and not after the Flesh”. By this they start into legalism and try to teach that we are saved if we do X Y Z. But What God revealed to me while reading this article I never seen before so clear is Romans 8:3 “GOD DID”. So Clear. Thanks again.

  15. Joe

    Eating/drinking blood was unacceptable to Jews. What’s going on here and what does it mean and what must the 11 have been thinking ?

    Matthew 26

    27 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it;

    28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

  16. Joe

    I understand it’s a figure of speech. What is being alluded to here that the disciples would understand historical (if any)? Where is drinking of any substance a Jewish custom or religious practice that the disciples could relate to? Today’s practices relate to this verse. What does this verse relate to before this event? Maybe the disciples just did it without understanding and the message is more to us today.

    1. doctrinedoctrine Post author

      It was new. Nothing in Israel’s practices related to bread and wine. However, if you go back to Genesis 14.18 there’s a connection which ties in Christ as high priest after the order of Melchizedek (Hebrews 7; Psalm 110.4). This was an inimation, not understood until Paul, that Christ died for all.

  17. bahati

    Dear Doctrine,
    How can one account for the lifestyles of the following FOUR people in light of God’s eyes..: ,1 a person not saved but living a desirable life in the society. 2 a saved person whose Adamic nature outdoes his Spiritual man hence unpleasant actions in the eyes of society, 3. The unsaved person who lives a detestable life in society, 4; a saved person living a pleasant life in society?????

    Just wondering

    1. doctrinedoctrine Post author

      Mankind looks at relative righteousness while God looks at absolute righteousness. Some, by nature or nurture, find it easier to do good and some evil. But in God’s sight, all fall short. We want to compare one man with another but the proof of Christ is that one is better with Him than without Him. In other words, A is better than A, not A is better than B. For the believer who lives ungodly, God will discipline him, perhaps even kill him. Paul wrote, “Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap” (Galatians 6.7). The normal Christian life is to exhibit the fruit of the Spirit (Galatians 5.22-26), under His control—a life of faith in which we reckon ourselves dead to sin.

  18. Bahati

    Dear Doctrine,

    Thank you for your getting in touch with us amidst your busy schedules in life.
    You just don’t know what peace I now have together with my family ever since I discovered your companionship. Now I’m truly free in Christ. I now conduct a Bible study right at my home with a Clear understanding. What joy fills my heart, as my wife also is getting her eyes opened to God’s true intent as opposed to total confusion we had had.
    However she was concerned and me too about the following:
    1: Does the government not have to know about our intention in case people begin to gather with us during Bible study and if perhaps the grouping grows into a sizable and visible Church?
    2. And what about the name of this study grouping? Does it not have to have a name or something for identity?..Or else how can we answer people who press for such?
    To these observations, I managed to give answers though I feel I’m not certain.
    My stand was that the government has nothing to do with our home Bible Study circle. For this is not an institution as all other churches claim to be. In addition, no need for a proper noun for this assembly apart from just a gathering of the saved.
    Please I need a further enlightenment on these complications. All in all, it’s amazing what God is doing in our lives. A lot is happening that even challenges me how to put it on paper.
    May God bless You and your family.

    1. doctrinedoctrine Post author

      So glad the Lord is continuing to enlighten you and give you peace. In our country, we have religious freedom. Our Constitution states: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. I do not know what your laws are but we are free to assemble as Christians without government interference. As for a name, you could call it Christian Bible Fellowship or something like that. May God continue to bless your family and the other believers with you.

  19. Joe

    In the early first century was there anything special with the name ‘Jesus’? Would it have been considered normal for others to have that as a name? Others claimed to be the Messiah. What separated Jesus (name wise) from others with the same name? special spelling?

    1. doctrinedoctrine Post author

      Jesus is essential Joshua. How common a name is unknown.
      1. Joshua (fully Jehoshua), the famous captain of the Israelites, Moses’ successor: Acts 7:45; Hebrews 4:8.
      2. Jesus, son of Eliezer, one of Christ’s ancestors: Luke 3:29
      3. Jesus, the Son of God, the Saviour of mankind: Matthew 1:21, 25; Luke 1:31; Luke 2:21
      4. Jesus Barabbas; see Βαραββᾶς.
      5. Jesus, surnamed Justus, a Jewish Christian, an associate with Paul in preaching the gospel: Colossians 4:11.

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